1919 Dalby
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About this Railway Ambulance

Basic data
Name 1919 Dalby Power Indian 7-9hp
Wheel Arr 2-2wPMR Construction
Gauge 3ft 6in 2006 status na
Builder QGR Ipswich 2006 home na
Year 1919 # in class 3 *

* 2 built at Ipswich  (Dalby & Mt Mulligan)
1 built at Auster Engineering
All essentially the same class of Railway Ambulance.
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In Service

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In service summary by J.W. Knowles 1990
The first Dalby rail motor ambulance was built at Ipswich workshops.  It was 8ft 6in long, 7ft 2.5ins high, 5ft 1.5ins wide, powered by an underfloor 7 to 9 hp (5.2 to 6.7 kw) Indian motor cycle engine.  The front was enclosed and had glass windows, but the roof and sides were canvas.  
There were 4 20in diameter wheels, and the car weighted 11cwt 1qr (582.5kg).  It was delivered to Dalby in a wagon, and made its trial trip on the Bell branch on 13th September 1919.  In June 1919the local QATB had built a shed at the Condamine Street level crossing, with rails at right angles to the adjacent Tara branch and main Western Line.  The car carried a portable turntable which was placed on the rails outside the shed to "rail" the car, and at its destination to turn it.  A portable telephone was carried, but this was of no use on the Bell and Jandowae branches, which then had only telegraph.  With its iron wheels and motor cycle engine, the car was noisy, a characteristic of most of the cars (railway ambulances).
The turntable could be dismantled and was carried in a container in the frame.  It comprised two rails each of 14lbs to the yard, with one foot taper at one end, and a vertical curve equal to the wheel radius at the other, 7ft 6 in long overall, just sufficient for the wheelbase.  These rails were kept apart by three corss pieces, whcih were slipped on to the bottom flange of the rails and a more substanital inverted tee piece for the centre, which had a bearing on which the turntable turned.  There was a similar tee piece which fitted across the running rails, with a pin in the centre on which the turntable revolved.  There were thus six pieces weighing in all approx 200 lbs.  Similar turntables were supplied for several other cars.
The car was immmediately put to work in the 1919 influenze epidemic.  In 1923, it ran 5750 miles (9254km) and in the three follow years 450, 592 and 703 (724km, 953km, 1131km).  It is reputed locally to have run 60,000 miles (96558km) before it was withdrawn in 1926, but such a high figure seems unlikely; 10000 (16093km) is more likely. Its fate is unknown.
In 1924, The Dalby QATB investigated having a car convertible from a road to rail by a change of tyres, but eventually settled for anther rail specific vehicle.  A 10hp (7.46kw) Citroen 11-4 truck with chain drive was converted to rail by the Central Motor Garage, Toowoomba. (see 1926 Dalby)
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DALBY

1918 - QATB Dalby branch, Dalby to Commr. 4.2.18 from Victor Drury, Chairman - in wet weather impossible for our ambulance motor to get to Bell, Jandowae, Tara due blacksoil roads, and if Dalby Ambulance could be allowed use of branch railways, enormous cost in tyres and petrol could be saved. Suggested building ambulance suitable to use on railway. We would also need permission to erect shed at Dalby Station and siding thereto.

Saw Canada cycle works re their Studebaker chassis but Committee think converting Ford chassis more economical as we could convert one of our present cars for railway traffic. If you do not object, our Superintendent would like to consult the Mechanical Engineer, as he will be in Brisbane shortly. The car could be used by Dept if required for railway accidents.

Memo 11.2.18 to Div.Mech.Eng, Ipswich; to C.E. Brisbane; Div.T.M. Brisbane re above. Sec. to V.Drury acknowledges. Any expense will need to be born by your committee but I do not expect a siding will be required.

V.Drury to Commr. 18.2.18, thanking you for info. Sketch proposed siding.

Memo Div.T.M. Roma St to Sec. 20.3.18, no suitable siding at Dalby to store motor car, Dist.T.M. suggests small siding near water tank but inconvenient, and dead end of Bell line west of Cunningham St suggested. A small shed will be needed, and cost should be born by brigade.

C.E.(Sexton) to Sec. 16.4.18 with blue print proposed siding and shed -Est. cost - Dept rates £73, Private rates £104. Mech.Eng. SD (J.E.Robinson) to Sec. 16.5.18 enclosing sketch proposed car, tare 9cwt, (blueprint in FILE). Brigade wish vehicle to be able to be lifted from track in emergency - will proposal satisfy them? If so, will have estimate of cost prepared. (Blueprint shows shed 20 x 15ft on southern side of mainline, west of level crossing, just before Tara line branches off.)  (Blueprint shows 4 wheel vehicle, 7-9hp Indian cycle engine mounted under floor between wheels, chain drive to one axle, 5ft between wheel centres. Body of canvas sides, light canvas roof, gear level and handbrake at front covered by projection of roof, throttle control and ignition advance on side of front seat which covers petrol tank, stretcher behind, locker underneath.) (Dalby - Files QSA A/12687 File 1935/361 Batch 17)

1918: Sec. to CME 28.5.18 requests another blue print. Sec. to C.E. asking re cheaper scheme - cf that at BLAIR ATHOL. Deputy Commr. Rockhampton shows 2 schemes, one a pair of 20ft rails leading into shed and portable turntable, 2 men can lift it on/off road - similar one in use at Rockhampton for inspection car. Est. cost £20. Siding est. £75 private, £58 Dept.rates.  Extra blue print - Mech.Eng SD 29.5.18.

Act.Sec. to C.E. 13.6.18 and 5.7.18 requesting reply. C.E. to Sec. 17.6.18 - plan of Blair Athol turntable not yet to hand. C.E. to Sec 7.8.18 with blue print of portable turntable used at Rockhampton, est cost. £24, consider suitable to adopt and plan shed on approach (est. £36 private rates including gate but LC Cunningham St could be used to save cost of approach.

Sec. to Div.T.M. 8.8.18 repeating above.

C.E. to Sec. 21.8.18 requests reply, QATB Dalby wish to proceed with construction. Sec. to CE 27.8.18 - referred to Div.T.M. (Blueprint in file of shed beside Tara branch not far from mainline points, access by turntable)

Sec. to Div.T.M. 27 Aug please reply.

V.Drury to C.E., acknowledge letter Aug.22, understand matter arranged. I am anxious to see plan for construction of Railway Motor ambulance which your Mr Marsland has in hand - hope to receive final plans.

C.E. to Sec. 27.8.18 re above.

Sec. to V.Drury, with info. Div.M.E. gave 16.5.18. Sec to C.E. 28.8.18, sketch sent to Mr Drury for approval.

Div.T.M. to Sec. 30.8.18 - matter in hand with Dist.T.M.

Div.T.M. to Sec. 7.9.18 - scheme suitable, no objection, agree Cunningham St LC can be used to unload patients.
The motor car must work under staff regulations. If necessary to use in emergency when train staff on the road, a competent railway man must accompany the car, in order to ensure safety, but Dept should not accept any risk for accident. "Regulations were drawn up some years ago for an ambulance car running between Anakie and Emerald, but I have not a copy here."

G.R.Steer, Div.T.M. Sec. to C.E. 9.9.18, Div.TM agree approach not needed; please send amended blue print and advise est.cost. Sec. to Div.TM - regulations for car should be submitted similar those in force BLAIR ATHOL rail motor car - see WN 515, 15.5.18.

C.E. to Sec. 13.9.18, with blueprint - no estimate for shed, understood ambulance would build it. Est. cost turntable £24(private rates).

Sec. to V.Drury 16.9.18, repeats info from C.E. Also re regs (similar to Div.T.M. info.) Speed can be fixed after a practice test has been made. Dept does not accept any liability if accident, even tho. Dept officer on Ambulance.

E.Slaughter, Super. QATB Dalby - re plan of ambulance, subject to a few changes, it would meet our needs. Public has subscribed £250, and rain expected soon, so anxious to proceed. Sec. to Div.Mech.Eng 23.9.18 re above. (Dalby - Files QSA A/12687 File 1935/361 Batch 17)

1918: V.Drury to Sec. 18.10.18 Committee decide they prefer original plan of loop off Tara line, and request direct access as Cunningham St LC very busy with shunting and road traffic. Brigade prepared to build shed under supervision of District engineer.

Sec. to Div.T.M. 21.10.18 re above. CME (Pemberton) to Sec. - understand "Indian" motor cycle engine to be used, please send engine here so we may complete drawings and estimate - 21.10.18. Sec. to V.Drury asking him to arrange to send engine to Ipswich Shops as soon as possible.

Sec. to CME 22.10.18 advising him of above.  For Weekly notice - G.R.S. 23.10.18 - The Dalby Ambulance Brigade have provided a RM car which it is proposed to use between Dalby, Bell, Jandowae and Tara as required for cases of serious accident or sickness. Train staff regulations to be observed throughout and to be in charge of competent railwayman. Speed maximum 15mph straight, 6mph curves. If required to travel at night and train staff not available, SMs not on duty, refer to Dist. T.M. Toowoomba who will issue instructions for running car. Ambulance brigade will provided Driver and petrol. Wages of the Railway officer will be charged to brigade. One ambulance attendant will be allowed free, but any relative or other person must pay usual fare.

Div.T.M. to Sec with instructions (as above;. Div.T.M. to Sec. 25.10.18 no objection to siding provided Brigade pay cost.

Sec. to C.E. 28.10.18 re siding etc (urgent). C.E. to Sec. estimate for siding as submitted 16.4.18. Shed not included as brigade will erect this.

Note 5.11.18 - is £73(Dept) or £104(private) to be charged. Inked on - CAM - Dept + 10% to be charged. Sec. to V.Drury 6.11.18 - est.cost £80, please send cheque, excess/refund when work complete.

V.Drury to Commr. 4.12.18 - Committee now want turntable a little to west of Condamine St LC instead of loop. Had thought Dept would bear cost siding (in ink written - no promise to Brigade, Brigade must pay cost?.

Sec to V.Drury 9.12.18 - Board must pay cost. Sec. to C.E. 9.12.18 re above and 8.1.19 asking for reply, and 29.1.19. C.E. to Sec. 3.2.19, sketch turntable to be carried on car -

CME to Sec 6.3.19, estimate for car £176.10.0 (incl. £27 added percentage for outside work), not include price of engine. Encloses detailed print (BLUEPRINT in file, 12"=1ft 7.3.19)

Sec. to C.E. 10.3.19 requesting design turntable. C.E. to Sec. 10.4.19 how does matter stand re siding. C.E. to Sec. 17.4.19 with blueprint of turntable, designed so can be taken to pieces, and carried on floor of ambulance. Est. cost £10 Dept, £12 private rates. Est. cost supply and laying rails sleepers etc and filling £19 (private rates). (Dalby - Files QSA A/12687 File 1935/361 Batch 17)

1919: Dalby Ambulance Brigade has provided a railmotor car which it is proposed to use between Dalby, Bell, Jandowae, Tara. Allowed in cases of serious accident or sickness. Train staff regulations to be observed and car to be in charge of competent railwayman. Maximum speed 15mph on straight, 6mph on curves. Ambulance brigade will supply driver and petrol. If staff not available and SMs not on duty, refer to District Traffic manager, Toowoomba (WN 581 p2, 28 Aug) [same instructions as for Blair Athol] (File 48.6803, A/12988; QSA)

1919: Telegram to CME 26.4.19 request another copy ambulance drawing.

CME to Sec. 28.4.19 enclosed, but ambulance committee have asked for changes. Sec. to CME 30.4.19 please send 2 copies of car when acceptable to Committee. CME to Sec. 30.4.19, design now settled, Committee request construction at once, estimate now £196/10/- , not including engine purchased by Committee.

Sec. to V.Drury 2.5.19 requesting £196.10.0, plus £19 turntable etc. CME to Sec. 2.5.19 est cost £196/10/- with details. Super to Commr. 5.5.19 enclosing cheque £227/10/-.

Chief Accountant to CME 8.5.19 does price include profit on materials and railage. Sec. to CME 8.5.19, £227/10/- received, please put work in hand at once, and to C.E. re turntable.

Super. to Sec. 7.5.19, re shed, approach & man in charge of ambulance. Sec. to CE re shed, approach 12.5.19.
CME to Sec. 15.5.19 with blueprint (now has enclosed front)  CME to Chief Accountant - usual profit on materials but no railage, it being thought transfer to Dalby under running conditions would be satisfactory trial before handing it over.

Chief Accountant to CME 8.5.19 does price include profit on material, and railage. Sec. to CME 8.5.19, £227/10/- received, please put work in hand at once, and to C.E. re turntable.

Super. to Sec. 7.5.19, re shed, approach & man in charge of ambulance. Sec. to CE re shed, approach 12.5.19.

CME to Sec. 15.5.19 with blueprint (now has enclosed front)

CME to Chief Accountant - usual profit on materials but no railage, it being thought transfer to Dalby under running conditions would be satisfactory trial before handing it over.

C.E. to Sec. 17.5.19 - Dist.Eng. instructed to do shed approaches. Sec. to Div.T.M. - construction now in hand. Please advise who is to be in charge when on the road 19.5.19. Div.T.M. to Sec. 4.6.19 - propose Foreman Keenan, he understands protection of trains and is competent, capable). I presume suitable notice will be given when car is being sent forward so proper instructions may be given.

C.E. to Sec. 11.6.19 siding(sic) for Dalby ambulance now completed. Sec. to Div.T.M. 17.6.19 - CME advised to advise you when car ready.

Sec. to E.Slaughter 17.6.19 advises siding ready but nothing done re shed. Foreman Keenan of Traffic branch proposed to be in charge.
 
Sec. to CME 17.6.19 - please advise us and Div.T.M. when car ready. CME to Sec - expect ready in about 4 weeks 19.6.19. Sec to Div.T.M. 20.6.19 repeats. Sec to CME 26.6.19 please expedite if possible. Progress report 6/19 in file. Sec. to Mr Connor 18.7.19 - how is car - reply - expect ready in a week. There has been some engine trouble 23.7.19.

QR telegram 8.8.19 Sec to CME - reply - now complete, will be loaded on wagon Monday evening for Dalby.

Sec to Div.TM repeating telegram, book "freight to pay". Advise when it will be ready to use and I will put instruction in a Weekly notice.

Sec to CE 9.8.19 ambulance not being run to Dalby as your May 12, book freight to pay. Sec. to V.Drury telegram 8.8.19 ambulance car leaves Ipswich Monday evening.

CME to Sec 9.8.19, car leaves Mon 11/8, instructor going up on 8S next day. V.Drury to Sec 14.8.19, ambulance went very well on trial run to Bell yesterday. The only drawback is row the engine makes -"this will keep patients from thinking of their pains."

Chief Accountant to CME 20.8.19 - re costs. Div.TM to sec. 20.8.19 now ready for use. Sec to Div.TM - will appear next Weekly notice 21.8.19. Extract WN 28 August, details as before.

Chief A/c to CE, SD re costs 1.9.19. Chief A/c to CME, cost in our books £292/2/7. Your estimate £196.10.0, please.

V.Drury to Sec. 18.9.19 re £19 for only a few lengths of rail, not a siding, asking if refund possible. Sec. to Drury 20.9.19 acknowledges.

Sec. to CME - was photo taken of car. 24.9.19.

Chief A/c to CME, and to CE, requesting reply, 26.9.19. Sec to CE re 19, 26.9.19. CE to Chief A/c 3.10.19 - matter had to be referred to Roma, awaiting reply. C.E. to Chief A/c, actual cost siding 14.5.10, 4.14.2 below estimate.

Turntable made at Northgate Shops, sent to CME, will advise cost as soon as possible - C.E. (Dalby - Files

QSA A/12687 File 1935/361 Batch 17)

1919 - QATB Dalby 18.9.19, now car running, suggest portable phone to communicate with Dalby in case of accident to RM Ambulance car. Sec. to V.Drury 28.10.19 no objection Tara line if only used in cases of extreme urgency. On Bell, Jandowae lines, where telegraph working in force, cannot be agreed to. (File 48.6803, A/12988; QSA)

1919: CME 10.10.19 understand no photo taken.

Note - from 1920  the usual very abbreviated condensation (File 48.6803, A/12988; QSA)  1920 - V.Drury to Sec. 17.9.20 requesting permission to run on mainline to Brigalow on Sundays when necessary - petition from residents Brigalow, Warra, Macalister. GM SWD 25.9.20 - no objection provided ambulance agree to pay guards time at Sunday rates and any other station expenses incurred - accepted.

V.Drury to Chief Accountant - extra £102/18/1 is shock, £254/7/2 for wages seems exorbitant. Sec. to V.Drury - Commr agrees to halve excess charge, and agrees to defer payment until end March 1920 if money not available.

E.Slaughter 21.4.20 with cheque and thanks for generous deduction. (File 48.6803, A/12988; QSA)

1922 - AFULE Deputation to Commr. 30.6.22 requested that enginemen be allowed to accompany ambulance instead guard, would thus have opportunity to learn working of car. Commr did not agree. Union then said shunter had accompanied Dalby car and it had run without staff or ticket. Commr to make inquiries.

Act.GM SWD says SM Dalby reports shunters work car if guard unavailable. If staff against it, line clear given by GM or if terminal station not in call or train on line, GM authorises car to proceed. Myself (SM) and ASM often called out to arrange car, so far no claim made for time. (File 48.6803, A/12988; QSA)

1924 - Photo Dalby RM Ambulance in Queenslander. (Note also photo in file)

1924 - E.Slaughter to Commr Victorian Railways 11.3.24 - RM Ambulance 7/9 hp Indian Motor bicycle engine, single chain drive, worked 5 years, asking for name of engineering firm to design new car. PHOTO of car in file.

Sec VR 13.5.24 - practice only to communicate through local Railway Dept.

Sec VR to Sec QGR mentions MURRAY AUNGER of Adelaide has supplied a number of Dort Motors for 5'3 and 3'6 in SA and satisfactory. (File 48.6803 A/12988 QSA)

1925,35,50 - Rail motor ambulance Dalby may travel to Bell, Meandarra (1935,50 Glenmorgan), Jandowae (GA 133, 145,160)

1926 - E. France, Toowoomba 6.6.26 to Sec - have contracted with Dalby QATB to build RM from a Citroen 11-4 narrow track chassis, require information re rail wheels etc. CME 11.6.26 suggests visit to Workshops by France.
   
E.France 30.6.26, thanks for help.

Newspaper item Dalby Herald 14.12.26 - trial run Toowoomba-Drayton-Wyreema 9.20am yesterday no trouble, ran up steep grade to Drayton at 20mph, also ran in reverse over a mile. Did 11 mile each way in 25 minutes, no trouble. Delay in delivery was due non-delivery of wheels. (File 48.6803 A/12988 QSA)

1927 - QATB Dalby 24.2.27 thanks for assistance re car and in recent floods from SMs etc. (File 48.6803 A/12988 QSA)

1923-29 H.Yeates 15.1.30 requesting RM Ambulance Toowoomba area, states Dalby railmotor travels - 1923 5750 miles; 1924   450 miles; 1925   595;   1926   703;  1927 2038; 1928 1887; 1929  811 miles (in Toowoomba file 35/361 Batch 7 A/12687)

1935 - AFULE 27.2.35 complains Dalby driver about 70, and in one case, no guard available, ran Oakey to Mount Tyson and back, thence to Toowoomba, with porter in charge. AFULE consider if guard not available, driver/act.driver/ fireman be sent. Ass. GM Toowoomba 13.3.35 - shunter sent if no guard. When porters used they are conversant with regulations. Getting driver could mean delay.
    Ass GM, Toowoomba 21.3.35 - guard usually on car, competent porter, shunter, acting N.O. used if guard or shunter-in-charge not available. In last 2 years did 32 trips, 23 had guard or acting guard, 7 porter, 1 acting N.O., 1 experienced shunter. On 9.11.33 Mount Tyson and Toowoomba trip - Acting Guard Garraty. On 1.4.34 Guard McIvor Dalby-Toowoomba-Dalby. On 23.11.34 to Cecil Plains competent porter, and returned to Dalby, did not go to Toowoomba.
    Gen Sec. QATB 28.6.35 quotes Mr Slaughter Dalby Super - I am 63, considered competent and careful driver. Bell, Jandowae lines unfenced, need experienced careful driver. I have had no collision with another vehicle. Another AFULE deputation 3.2.36, much correspondence. (File 48.6803 A/12988 QSA)